Rance denounces Bull for not being Communist Enough

Rance Out-Gulaging the Stalinists:

Roland Rance took some time off from his auto-eroticism for Islamofascism to post an attack on Royston Bull on the "JustPeaceUK" chat list on October 1, 2004.

"JustPeaceUK" is a communist anti-Semitic pro-terror chat list. In his posting, Rance denounces Bull for not being commuist enough and for not being anti-Semitic enough.

He writes:

'I have become involved in an increasingly bizarre exchange with the crazed Royston Bull in the correspondence column of the Weekly Worker, paper of the Communist Party of Great Britain. Bull, a notoriously homophobic former Trotskyist, now Stalinist in his politics, wrote a few weeks ago defending his opposition to the gay rights movement, asserting that such issues should be "postponed in favour of the world seeing its way to a total Palestinian victory over the whole post-1945 Jewish/imperialist colonisation attempt, one unavoidable key on the way to the world revolution". I responded, asking in what way I had benefitted from this conspiracy, to which Bull replied that my anti-Zionist "naive delusions" would be more credible if I "could be heard enouncing the foundation of the state of Israel and all its works". Of course, I responded, noting my activity over nearly thirty years, ansd asking where Bull had been during that time. He has now responded in turn, arguing that a two-state solution is an "evil fraud", a secular democratic state is "Utopian", and the only solution is "driving this rotten Zionist stunt into the sea". Bull is thus reinforcing the lying Zionist propaganda which claims that the Palestinians do intend to drive the Jews into the sea. I urge as many people as possible to write to the Weekly Worker, to challenge thisargument, and to condemn Bull as harming rather than helping the Palestinian struggle.'

So Rance was offended when Bull claimed that Rance was not working hard enough for the genocidal destruction of Israel. Rance responds that of course he supports that, and in fact has been citing Marxist mumbo jumbo and masturbating nonstop for 30 years in his efforts to achieve that. Bull, on the other hand, is "homophobic" and working for the "Zionists" because Bull denounces Rance as a twit.

Sorry, Mister Greenstein, But No, You CANNOT Borrow my Credit Cards!

David Aaronovitch Annihilates the Bugger Boys

The noted British Times columnist David Aaronovitch has blasted the Bugger Boys, the UK's "Jews against Zionism", including Tony Greenstalin and Mark Elf, as people who need to grow up:

So it is interesting to me to see that many of those involved in the boycott campaign use “Zionist” as a term of abuse, not analysis. For example, Mr Mark Elf, a heroic correspondent to the letters page of this and any other journals, describes Tony Blair as a Zionist almost entirely because he doesn’t like the PM.

He tells another critical correspondent on his Jews Sans Frontieres blog “not to lie or evade, I know that as a Zionist you find thus difficult to impossible…”. Used in this way, Zionist is just another word for bad, like the apartheid regime in South Africa was bad, or fascists are bad. It is a word to be applied to people whether they believe themselves to be Zionists or not.

As deployed by some agency entirely external to the Jewish communities — an Egyptian newspaper, say, or an Iranian TV channel — such a demonology is to be regretted but can at least be understood as an attitude towards the “other”.

But when it is used in this way by people who go to such lengths as Mr Elf or his ubiquitous comrade, Mr Tony Greenstein, constantly and at every opportunity to stress their Jewish origins, something else would seem to be going on. Ah yes, say some readers, we are way ahead of you. Mr Elf and Mr Greenstein are archetypal “self-haters”. They are typical Jews who hate Jews (an organisation, come to think of it, which would complete the long, self-indulgent list of Jews For or Against This or That). They wish somehow to lose their unwanted Jewishness by currying favour with the goyische welt. They like the Nobel prizes and the comedy, but they don’t want to be associated with the big noses and loud behaviour in Waitrose.

There are Jews who hate Jewishness. In his excellent book about being brought up in a fascist household, Trevor Grundy describes his late discovery that his fiercely antisemitic mother was herself originally Jewish. Bad experiences at the hands of her step-father might have accounted for her pathological rejection of her own people. But the very extremeness of her example indicates why I distrust the “self-hating” diagnosis as much as I distrust the Elfian definition of Zionism. Both are impertinences. “I don’t hate myself,” Mr Elf might say with justice, “I just hate you.”

Trevor Grundy’s mother hid her Jewishness. Jews Against Zionism (or whatever) luxuriate in their superior version of theirs. Indeed, their profession of Jewishness is as excessive as anybody’s on their hate-list, though it seems to exist for the sole purpose of negative deployment. I knew Tony Greenstein many years ago, when he reminded me of John McEnroe in a kefiyeh.

The boycotters, and especially the Jews for Boycotts, are not self-hating Jews — they’re adolescents. It isn’t themselves they hate, but Daddy and Mummy. In fact, they’re so vain they probably think this piece is about them.